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RED Carbon Fibre Dragon 6K / MiniS4i UNCOATED T2.8 (18-75mm)

Shoot Kit 9- MB19/20/FF4/O'Con 2060/2575/Tall/Short

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RED EPIC™ 6K Carbon Fibre 6K large sensor digital film camera.

Lenses

Cooke uncoated Mini S4i PL Prime Set of 5x T2.8 lens are smaller, lighter than the S4i but offers the same resolution, optical quality and reliability.  Previously known as Cooke Panchro but not to be confused with old generation Cooke Panchros. 

This is an identical set of Cooke S4i PL Prime lenses but we have supplied these with uncoated front elements in order to generate lots of flare, when this is desired.

Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime Set of 5x T2.8 lens are smaller, lighter than the S4i but offers the same resolution, optical quality and reliability. Cooke decided that the lenses should be equally suitable for shooting film and digital images up to and beyond a 4K resolution pipeline.

Read the new article UNCOATED lenses - what you need to know!

Read the article from Duncan Telford DoP on shooting on Uncoated lenses

In addition the lenses include /i Technology, providing lens data per frame for downstream post production.

Like the S4i lenses, the Cooke Mini S4is are designed for motion photography and they don't breathe.

The lenses are one stop slower than the S4i, as a result they can be smaller and lighter.

All Cooke lenses are colour matched. This means Cooke Mini S4i and S4i lenses can be mixed on a shoot with full confidence that the images will match.

Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime Lens Set

  • Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime 18mm T2.8
  • Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime 25mm T2.8
  • Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime 32mm T2.8
  • Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime 50mm T2.8
  • Cooke Mini S4i PL Prime 75mm T2.8

 

Guides

Everything you wanted to know about 4K but were too afraid to ask...

Do we adopt 4K now or wait for 8K?

The Case for and against 4K

Shooting with HD Video lenses on large sensor cameras

Large Sensor Cameras - Everything that you need to know

Large Sensor Cameras - Everything that you need to know

EPIC vs Scarlet - What you need to know

RED Technical Information

Guide to Tapeless Acquisition and Production

Role of the DIT

Other useful RED Resources & Links

RED EPIC Dragon Lens Coverage

 

(from Reduser.net)

Super 35mm Cinema Glass Dragon Coverage:

 



Expanded notes on the Leica Sumilux-C Primes:

18mm - 6K Wide Open usable w/ vignette until T5.6.
21mm - 6K Wide Open usable w/ vignette until T5.6.
25mm - Uneven corner illumination at 6K wide open.
35mm - 6K usable Wide Open but vignettes
40mm - 6K usable Wide Open but vignettes
50mm - Covers 6K, vignettes when iris at T22 and focused past 9 feet.
75mm - Covers all Epic Dragon Formats
100mm - Covers all Epic Dragon Formats

What can be discerned from this? In one way or another they are usable wide open until about T4 on Dragon at 6K and 6K WS. However, the initial graphics involve "clean coverage". This is why Jim is right and the numbers are right. It is a very noticeable vignette roll off however. T1.4-T2.8 and up until T4 you may find success and lovely images.
 




Leica Summicron-C Primes
All lenses cover Dragon 6K FF cleanly.
 




John Marchant who has one of the first Dragon cameras out in the wild has just shared his notes on Cooke Mini S4i coverage.

Cooke Mini S4i

18mm - Covers 6k 2:1 / HD / 2.4:1 - 6k FF OK above F4 - a small hard vignette at the corner below f5.6 @ MOD, f8 @ infinity
25mm - Covers 6k 2:1 / HD / 2.4:1 - 6k FF OK above F5.6 - a tiny hard vignette at the very corner below f8, only @ infinity
32mm - Covers 6k FF
50mm - Covers 6k FF
75mm - Covers 6k FF
100mm - Covers 6k FF
 



Dedicated Full Frame 35mm coverage lenses:

  • Zeiss CP.2 Primes - All lenses cover Dragon 6K, except for the 18mm. That does cover 5.5K however.
  • Zeiss CP.2 Super speed Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
  • Schneider Xenon-FF Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
  • Canon CN-E Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
  • Leica M Primes - All Cover Dragon. Optically speaking Summilux-M 24mm and longer look great!


 



Zoom Lens Coverage!

** UVI stands for Uneven Vignette Illumination. The "highlight glow" that sometimes contaminates the expected roll-off to darkness a Vignette produces. Sometimes extremely noticeable on zoom pulls and iris pulls.

** Worsening Vignette is described as an inconsistent Vignette during a zoom pull.

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Red Pro Zoom 18-85mm T2.9
@32mm 6K FF vignette, clear at 40mm
@25mm covers 6K WS
@22mm covers 6K HD

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Canon CN-E 14.5-60mm T2.6
@14.5 - covers 5K clean, hard vignette porthole at higher resolutions
@35 - covers 6K FF with UVI
@60 - clean

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Canon CN-E 15.5-47 T2.8
@15.5 - 6K HD covers with vignette
** be cautious of UVI during zoom pull and stopped down
@30 - Covers 6K FF with soft vignette

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Canon CN-E 30-105 T2.8
@30 - Covers 6K HD nicely. 6K FF wide open pretty good, stopped down port hole
@75 - Covers 6K cleanly

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Canon 30-300mm T2.95-3.7
@30 - Portholes 6K - 5.5K WS soft vignette
@85 - vignettes, but covers 6K FF
@300 - Clean 6K FF

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Angenieux Optimo 19.5-94mm T2.6
@19.5 - Portholes at 6K FF, 6K WS slightly but covers 6K HD with vignette
@30 - soft vignette at 6K FF
@94 - Clean 6K FF

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Angenieux Optimo DP 16-42mm T2.8
@16 - 6K FF Porthole, 6K HD w/ soft vignette
@19 - 6K FF covers w/ slight vignette
** really doesn't work with the Motion Mount!

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Angenieux Optimo DP 30-80mm T2.8
@30 - 6K FF Porthole, 6K HD covers with slight vignette
@65 - vignette 6K FF worsens 
** be cautious of ring type UVIs
** really doesn't work with the Motion Mount!

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Angenieux Optimo 15-40mm T2.6
@16 - porthole 6K FF and 6K WS, 6K HD vignettes. Better use at 5.5K
18 - 6K FF covers with vignette.
** exhibits similar vignette worsening as DPs

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Angenieux Optimo 28-76 T2.6
@28 - 6K WS covers cleaning, porthole at 6K FF
@32 - 6K FF covers
** exhibits similar vignette worsening as DPs

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Angenieux 45-120mm T2.8 
- Covers 6K HD

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Angenieux Optimo 24-290 T2.8
@24 - No way sees front mask
@75 - Covers 6K FF.

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Angenieux Optimo 28-340mm T2.9
- Covers 6K HD

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Arri Fujinon Alura 15.5-45mm T2.8.
@15.5 - 6K WS covers with vignette and potential coloful UVI
@18 - 6K FF covers with soft vignette
*** - Be careful of iris pulls, UVI

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Arri Fujinon Alura 30-80 T2.8
@30 - Covers 6K FF w/ vignette

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Arri Fujinon Alura 18-80mm T2.6
@18 - Portholes 6K FF, covers 5.5K WS 
@40 - 6K FF covers

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Fujinon Cabrio 19-90mm T2.9
@19 - 6K FF vignettes, portholes as iris closes, which eventually encroaches on 6K WS coverage, 6K HD works fine
@70 - covers 6K FF nicely

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Canon 17-120mm T2.95

6K Full Frame - Hard corner clip @17mm. By 40mm, soft vignette and usable
6K 2:1 - Practically same as above
6K Widescreen - Soft vignette @17mm, ok by 20mm
6K HD - Covers well, very minor light falloff (expected) at 17mm
Anything less than the 6K HD frame size on the Dragon and you're all good.

(Notes courtesy Matt Duclos)

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Angenieux 25-250 HR T3.5
Covers 5K :)

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Zeiss CZ 70-200mm T2.9
Zeiss CZ 28-80mm T2.9
Zeiss CZ 15-30mm T2.9

- Covers 6K FF

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Focus Optics RUBY 14-24mm T2.8
- Covers 6K FF
 




As more focal lengths, sets, and zooms are tested we will add to this list and update the graphics.

This is the "simple" version of these tests and I have taken additional notes. If you have any questions regarding coverage and performance post them here and I'll do my best to answer your questions.

Some of the basic notes on coverage that everybody should keep in mind:

  • Any lens designed for Full Frame 35mm or VistaVision formats cover Dragon at 6K
  • If you have a lens that covers Mysterium-X at 5K today you will cover Dragon at 5.5K safely
  • All lenses designed for Super 35mm will cover Dragon at 5K


 



Crop Factors and Format FOV Calculations:

Okay. So we have to keep in mind relative crop factor here. Meaning if FF35 is your starting point that's 1X, and if S35 is your starting point that's 1X. Here's the info for both with the aspect ratio of Dragon's sensor taken into account:

For people who visualize FF35 as their starting point......

Epic Dragon Crop Factors FF35 Relative to Full Frame 35mm:
6K Full = 1.17x
5.5K = 1.28x
5K = 1.40x
4.5K = 1.56
4K = 1.75x
3.5K = 2x
3K = 2.33x
2.5K = 2.8x
2K = 3.50x


and for S35 as a base.....

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